Traveller-digest   Wednesday, September 29 1999   Volume 1999 : Number 1140



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The following topics are covered in this digest:

Re: good and evil
Re: Traveller Houston or DC?
Re: Social standing and the upkeep rule
Re: Re:Archon- Anyone Attending?
Re: Re:Archon- Anyone Attending?
RE: Census Time
RE: Traveller Houston or DC?
Re: Traveller Houston or DC?
RE: TML Traveller Roster
Re: Traveller Houston or DC?
Palm Editors
Re: Re:Archon- Anyone Attending?
Re: TML Traveller Roster
Re: Palm Editors
Re: Traveller Houston or DC?
Re: SEC: UNCLASSIFIED RE TML Doomsday Census
Wee Book Inn
101 Religions
RE: Palm was RE: Deckplans
Re: One question answered, another asked...

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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 22:51:36 -0000
From: "Chris Seamans" <semo@pil.net>
Subject: Re: good and evil

- -----Original Message-----
From: Benyamene' ZeAbe' Akella <xrp@sierratel.com>
To: traveller@lists.imagiconline.com <traveller@lists.imagiconline.com>
Date: Tuesday, September 28, 1999 5:58 PM
Subject: Re: good and evil


>Hull breach resulting in explosive decompression for the pirate and rouge
>army guy? An "evil" mindset is rarely helpful in maintaining a PC groups
>solidarity.


It all depends on the players, really, and the campaigns they're involved
in.

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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 22:55:48 -0400
From: "Thomas Schoene" <TomSchoene@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: Traveller Houston or DC?

- ----------
> From: Bill Rutherford <worj@erols.com>
> To: traveller@lists.imagiconline.com
> Subject: Re: Traveller Houston or DC?
> Date: Tuesday, 28 September, 1999 10:21 PM
> 
> At 07:44 PM 09/28/1999 -0500, you wrote:
[snip]
> >Secondly, any good stores in the Washington DC area?
> >I am returning there at the end of October for a few days.
> >
> 
> Regarding Washington DC, yes indeedy!
[snip]
> Little Wars - Fairfax County on Lee Highway.  Their website's at:
> 
> http://members.wbs.net/homepages/l/i/t/littlewars.html
> and has their phone number, hours, etc. - smaller selection, but some
nice
> & esoteric stuff...
> 
> Eagle and Empire - Mt. Vernon (south of the district) call at
703-360-5363

Damn, I've been here five years and managed to miss both of these.
 
> Complete Strategist - Falls Church - sorta hoary; some gems buried
amongst
> the "stuff"; call them at 703-527-2477 (I think; Directory ass't can help
> if that's wrong.  They're on Rt 7...)

Not close to the original in NYC.
 
> There's another place - or was - in Clarendon/North Arlington that deals
> mainly in fantasy & RPGs but their name escapes me...

That was Fantasy Forum.  They are sadly defunct now.  The shop moved out to
McClean for a year or two and went out of business about a week ago.  

Ob another thread: Fantasy Forum had a cat...

Tom Schoene

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Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 13:05:00 +1000
From: "The Roc" <roc@kewl.com.au>
Subject: Re: Social standing and the upkeep rule

- ----- Original Message -----
From: Hans Rancke-Madsen <rancke@diku.dk>
To: <traveller@lists.imagiconline.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 1999 11:38 PM
Subject: Re: Social standing and the upkeep rule



>
> >Before MT, My GM used Cr20*(SS^2) as the upkeep costs... meant nobles
> >couldn't live on retirement pay alone....
>
> Not that I want to defend the abovementioned rule, but why would you
expect
> a noble to be able to live on retirement pay alone? Nobles are expected to
> have money of their own. It's perfectly reasonable that those that don't
> would have problems keeping up an appropiate lifestyle.
>
>

I was thinking over that statement also, thinking of r/l "royals" (nobles in
the Traveller sense) who are head waiters in fancy restaurants because of
their actual financial standing, and the plethora in Russia with the blood
of the Czars in them who clean toilets and wash dishes for a living, and the
females selling themselves into marriage with petty businessmen so the new
husband can have some credibility with a noble name (not always with a
title).

Then, if one wants something more noticeable, try Fergie, the Duchess of
York.  Toe-sucking and bankruptcy (or was it near bankruptcy--being bailed
out by US chat shows??).  I believe the English royal family have
photographers and journos, writers and producers, and other businessmen in
their ranks (the ones you hear about), with some in the wings being those
waiters and cleaners I mentioned above.

It's a good way to explain why that noble PC has no ready cash and the rest
of the family don't help him -- why that PC is an adventurer.

- -- The Roc

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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 23:05:45 -0400
From: "Sword Worlder" <swordworlder@clinic.net>
Subject: Re: Re:Archon- Anyone Attending?

- ----- Original Message -----
From: Thomas Vickers <redroach@flex.net>
> Tell you what Swordy, I will drive up from Texas and pick you up. That way
> we can both go:)

What a guy!  Been needing to make a trip to visit Jay and Medieval Starship,
anyway.  Especially now that the Sign has moved there.  Bring a van so I can
tote along my collection for Jay to look over.

<sigh> if only

Mr. Never-been-to-a-Con

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
The TRAVELLER Domain
http://www.downport.com
Colin Michael, WebDev

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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 22:16:56 -0500
From: "Thomas Vickers" <redroach@flex.net>
Subject: Re: Re:Archon- Anyone Attending?

HEHEEEE
Can your collection fit in the trunk of a Miata?

My experiences were honed on AGGIECON. A scifi convention at Texas A&M of
all places. Talk about getting old.

TV
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"The dumber you seem to be, the more surprised they'll be when you kill
them."
- -----Original Message-----
From: Sword Worlder <swordworlder@clinic.net>
To: traveller@lists.imagiconline.com <traveller@lists.imagiconline.com>
Date: Tuesday, September 28, 1999 9:54 PM
Subject: Re: Re:Archon- Anyone Attending?


>----- Original Message -----
>From: Thomas Vickers <redroach@flex.net>
>> Tell you what Swordy, I will drive up from Texas and pick you up. That
way
>> we can both go:)
>
>What a guy!  Been needing to make a trip to visit Jay and Medieval
Starship,
>anyway.  Especially now that the Sign has moved there.  Bring a van so I
can
>tote along my collection for Jay to look over.
>
><sigh> if only
>
>Mr. Never-been-to-a-Con
>
>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>The TRAVELLER Domain
>http://www.downport.com
>Colin Michael, WebDev
>
>
>

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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 20:19:05 -0700
From: Clay <arioch@theriver.com>
Subject: RE: Census Time

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My location:  Fort Huachuca, AZ, U.S.A.
Game Location:  Online at the WebRPG
Campaign milieu:   Spinward Marches, 1121, no rebellion.
Campaign ruleset:  GURPS Traveller; modified rules (mixed with MT)
Campaign health: In good health (so far)
Group has met since:  July 1999
Frequency:  2 groups, both Weekly (one Sundays the other Wednesdays)
Number of players: Group  1 has 4; Group 2 has 8
Number of referees: 1 (plus two, who occasionally help out)
E-mail contact: oekhsos@hotmail.com
Description : The characters are the crew of an ISS Donosev class
starship.  Their mission  is to conduct a Class III survey of all
systems in the Spinward Marches.  During the course of this mission the
nobility or the ISS may call upon the crew to complete non-mission tasks
as needed.
The most common themes of this saga are survey/exploration, paramilitary
action, & political intrigue.

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My location:&nbsp; Fort Huachuca, AZ, U.S.A.
<BR>Game Location:&nbsp; Online at the WebRPG
<BR>Campaign milieu:&nbsp;&nbsp; Spinward Marches, 1121, no rebellion.
<BR>Campaign ruleset:&nbsp; GURPS Traveller; modified rules (mixed with
MT)
<BR>Campaign health: In good health (so far)
<BR>Group has met since:&nbsp; July 1999
<BR>Frequency:&nbsp; 2 groups, both Weekly (one Sundays the other Wednesdays)
<BR>Number of players: Group&nbsp; 1 has 4; Group 2 has 8
<BR>Number of referees: 1 (plus two, who occasionally help out)
<BR>E-mail contact: <A HREF="mailto:oekhsos@hotmail.com">oekhsos@hotmail.com</A>
<BR>Description : The characters are the crew of an ISS Donosev class starship.&nbsp;
Their mission&nbsp; is to conduct a Class III survey of all systems in
the Spinward Marches.&nbsp; During the course of this mission the nobility
or the ISS may call upon the crew to complete non-mission tasks as needed.
<BR>The most common themes of this saga are survey/exploration, paramilitary
action, &amp; political intrigue.</HTML>

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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 22:29:18 -0500
From: "David Reed" <de.reed@xolutions.net>
Subject: RE: Traveller Houston or DC?

Thomas,

> I have a good question.
> Anyone have any ideas about Traveller in Houston ? It has
> been 15 years since I journeyed to Houston for game materails.

Yes, indeed.  Oh, you wanted us to share?  Of course!!  We're trying to
accrete enough mass to begin at least fission (read: gather players)
possibly fusion...

Several Houston TMLers who've never met in the flesh are getting together
Saturday for lunch (probably near Johnson Space Center), care to join us?

In case I misunderstood and you're looking for FLGS in Houston, Gamesmasters
(both locations) just went Chapter 11, but Nan's and Phoenix are still
afloat (although both are reorganizing heavily into other things).  Half
Price occasionally has something (if I don't see it first :).

> Secondly, any good stores in the Washington DC area?
> I am returning there at the end of October for a few days.

Ye gods, man, why?!  I narrowly escaped from there a few weeks ago just
before Congress returned (only to leave again just in time to miss Floyd)...
and nobody has even noticed that I replaced the president with Bubba.  ;}

obtrav: has anyone else decided that the use of "First Wave" style clone
replacements (to confuse your players) is too good to pass up?

// David Reed ~ de.reed@xolutions.net

# "Travellers never think that THEY are the foreigners."
# ~ Mason Cooley (b. 1928), U.S. aphorist.

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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 22:33:47 -0500
From: "Thomas Vickers" <redroach@flex.net>
Subject: Re: Traveller Houston or DC?

>Several Houston TMLers who've never met in the flesh are getting together
>Saturday for lunch (probably near Johnson Space Center), care to join us?

Send me info in private. I may ditch a DR. friend. Who needs the women he is
trying to set me up with. Hell, I live in Conroe and I might try to make it.
You guys are really far south :)

Nans is an old standard, I just wasn't sure if they were still in business.
They were my gaming Mecca in the 80's. Phoenix was just a baby the last time
I visited them.

As for Half priced, I check on 1960 all the time to no avail. NO gaming
stuff.

I have to go to DC, job forces me too. How often does your boss call and
tell you that you get 3, all expenses paid days, in DC?  Hell, they are even
giving me spending cash, who could refuse :)

TV

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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 99 22:36:28 -0500
From: "Eris Reddoch" <eris@pcola.gulf.net>
Subject: RE: TML Traveller Roster

On 09/27/99 at 10:46 AM,  Ian Ferguson <ian@vax2.concordia.ca> said:

>Why do you start these things on the weekend? :)

Just to make it hard on you Ian. <g> 

As it happens, I have more time for reading and writing posts on the
weekend, being busy with that which pays for my computer during the
week.  <g>

I'm compiling the posts from the last two days tonight...man there
are a lot of them.

How about I just don't put the emails on the web, then anyone that
wants me to put their's up (or their url) email me at a later date?

Eris

- -- 
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"Eris Reddoch" <eris@pcola.gulf.net>    using MR/2 ICE #245
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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 22:39:19 -0500
From: "Thomas Vickers" <redroach@flex.net>
Subject: Re: Traveller Houston or DC?

One last question.
What about Third Planet?

Now you know how old I am :)

TV

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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 23:47:43 -0400
From: Mark Urbin <eclipse@ultranet.com>
Subject: Palm Editors

SD Mooney <dom@cybergoths.u-net.com> writes:
>Richard Hough <rdhough@home.com> writes:
> >>One question - is anyone aware of a text editor/memo pad on the palm which
> >>has a larger limit than the unit which ships with it?
> >>Palm has a special DOC text format which is compressed and allows much
> >larger documents; entire books Are available in DOC format. Reader and
> >conversion software is available at http://www.pilotzone.com. I recommend
> >TealDoc.
>I have TealDoc, and use it for books etc. However, what I was after was
>finding out if the Memo Pad on the Palm III allows bigger memos than that
>on the Palm Pilot Pro. Or if there is a third party editor. The idea is to
>have something I can work on bigger texts, not having to truncate files
>across a number of memos.

The Memo Pad is the same on the Palm Pro, the Palm III & the Palm V.
QED is a good palm editor for editing files in Aportis doc format (That is 
to say 'bigger files').
Let me check my palm page...
I have a link to http://www.visionary2000.com/qed/

It's shareware ($23 US to register).  A very nice program.  There are 
several programs that will convert the doc format back to Text that runs on 
your PC.

I use QED to the final clean up of documents I convert to Aportis 
Doc.  These include the Shadowrunner's Guide to Boson.  You can find this 
at (plug, plug)

http://www.ultranet.com/~eclipse/GEEK/palmpilot.shtml


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eclipse@ultranet.com -- These opinions are mine, no one else wants `em.
A well-educated electorate being necessary to the prosperity of a free
state, the right of the people to keep and read books, shall not be
infringed.  -- http://www.ultranet.com/~eclipse/
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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 23:53:57 -0400
From: "Sword Worlder" <swordworlder@clinic.net>
Subject: Re: Re:Archon- Anyone Attending?

- ----- Original Message -----
From: Thomas Vickers <redroach@flex.net>
> Can your collection fit in the trunk of a Miata?

um... perhaps, but... then the front wheels might not touch the pavement.
Hmm.  okay, so I'll leave T4 and GT and the lead figures home.  And I'll try
to cash in this bag of coins at the bank before we hit the road.  Woo-hoo!
Archon road trip, here we go!

Better go to bed before I start believing myself.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
The TRAVELLER Domain
http://www.downport.com
Colin Michael, WebDev

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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 23:00:56 -0500
From: Black ICE <wombat@premier.net>
Subject: Re: TML Traveller Roster

Eris Reddoch wrote:
> 
<<snip>>
> 
> I'm compiling the posts from the last two days tonight...man there
> are a lot of them.
> 
> How about I just don't put the emails on the web, then anyone that
> wants me to put their's up (or their url) email me at a later date?

That's probably the best solution.  That way, nobody has an email posted
to the Web without his/her/its consent.

- -- 
AuricTech Shipyards Journeyman Gearhead
"Gold-Plated [tm] solutions for copper-plated problems!" (r)
http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Shadowlands/9776

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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 23:03:22 -0500
From: "Thomas Vickers" <redroach@flex.net>
Subject: Re: Palm Editors

Let me do everyone a favor. As I read this I realized that I have a baby
sister that works at a company that supposedly does major software for
Palmpilots.
I will ask her and see what she can drum up for free.

TV
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"The dumber you seem to be, the more surprised they'll be when you kill
them."
- -----Original Message-----
From: Mark Urbin <eclipse@ultranet.com>
To: traveller@lists.imagiconline.com <traveller@lists.imagiconline.com>
Date: Tuesday, September 28, 1999 10:45 PM
Subject: Palm Editors


>SD Mooney <dom@cybergoths.u-net.com> writes:
>>Richard Hough <rdhough@home.com> writes:
>> >>One question - is anyone aware of a text editor/memo pad on the palm
which
>> >>has a larger limit than the unit which ships with it?
>> >>Palm has a special DOC text format which is compressed and allows much
>> >larger documents; entire books Are available in DOC format. Reader and
>> >conversion software is available at http://www.pilotzone.com. I
recommend
>> >TealDoc.
>>I have TealDoc, and use it for books etc. However, what I was after was
>>finding out if the Memo Pad on the Palm III allows bigger memos than that
>>on the Palm Pilot Pro. Or if there is a third party editor. The idea is to
>>have something I can work on bigger texts, not having to truncate files
>>across a number of memos.
>
>The Memo Pad is the same on the Palm Pro, the Palm III & the Palm V.
>QED is a good palm editor for editing files in Aportis doc format (That is
>to say 'bigger files').
>Let me check my palm page...
>I have a link to http://www.visionary2000.com/qed/
>
>It's shareware ($23 US to register).  A very nice program.  There are
>several programs that will convert the doc format back to Text that runs on
>your PC.
>
>I use QED to the final clean up of documents I convert to Aportis
>Doc.  These include the Shadowrunner's Guide to Boson.  You can find this
>at (plug, plug)
>
>http://www.ultranet.com/~eclipse/GEEK/palmpilot.shtml
>
>
>---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>eclipse@ultranet.com -- These opinions are mine, no one else wants `em.
>A well-educated electorate being necessary to the prosperity of a free
>state, the right of the people to keep and read books, shall not be
>infringed.  -- http://www.ultranet.com/~eclipse/
>---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>

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Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 00:15:38 EDT
From: Sethkimmel@aol.com
Subject: Re: Traveller Houston or DC?

In a message dated 9/29/99 1:33:16 AM !!!First Boot!!!, 
TomSchoene@worldnet.att.net writes:

<< I'm near DC, and I don't know of a good store that is really all that
 close.  Game Parlour out in Chantilly is good for some things, most notably
 thy have a huge (and clean) open gaming area, and support miniatures.  But
 their stock often seems spotty to me.  And they require a significant drive
 (probably 40 minutes from DC).
 
 Dream Wizards is up in Rockville, which is just accessible by Metro. 
 They're a lot smaller though, and I'm increasingly disappointed with their
 service.  (I don't like being told that game company is lying about having
 released product, just because the store can't find it.)
 
 There's also a very small Compleat Strategist in McClean, but their RPG
 support is pretty slim.  
 
 Tom Schoene >>

Tom; I was in DC in '82, and I remember that there used to be a good game 
store just over the Potomac. It was in the underground shopping mall near the 
Pentagon (Crystal City?) but I don't remember the name. I remember buying the 
Task Force Games pocket game editions of Starfire and Starfire II (which I 
still think was the best version...K.I.S.S.)...

Seth

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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 99 23:42:28 -0500
From: "Eris Reddoch" <eris@pcola.gulf.net>
Subject: Re: SEC: UNCLASSIFIED RE TML Doomsday Census

On 09/28/99 at 11:20 AM,  Timothy.Collinson@solent.ac.uk said:

>>Michael Hughes, Canberra (Russell by day, Kambah* by Night), ACT  wrote:

>>Verily M'lord, my income is but 3/8th a pig a year.

>Being a boring old staid librarian (yeah, right) I'm not one to
>splutter tea all over my keyboard - but this, after all the roster
>entries and the taxation thread, was simply delightful.

I am NOT doing the Doomsday book! <g>

Eris
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Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 00:11:54 -0700
From: "Wayne" <wewart@home.com>
Subject: Wee Book Inn

>
> >Last time I was in Edmonton, a chain of book stores (Wee Book Inn) had a
cat
> >in each of the 5 stores. There best store was on White Ave. (2 floors
with
> >the second floor having some really old pulp sci-fi and the biggist cat I
> >have ever seen)
>
> 5 Wee Book Inns? Downtown, Stony Plain Road West, Whyte Avenue... where
are
> (were?) the other two?
>
Last time I was in Edmonton was 94 and the other two stores were at 118 Ave
(2 or 3 Blocks from Northlands) and I was told there was one in St. Albert

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Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 08:56:45 +0100
From: Timothy.Collinson@solent.ac.uk
Subject: 101 Religions

Last week I semi-promised to provide an index of _101 Religions_ arranged
by race.  Here it is.

Note: Not all the 101 Religions are included here as not all explicitly
state a background.  Some of the remainder could be considered Imperial,
the rest could be used fairly generically.

Addaxur (see Zhodani: Addaxur)

Anak't
   Caretakers of the Anak't

Aslan
   The Aslan Shrine of Heroes

Darmine
   Telor

Imperial
   The Aurum Astrum
   Church of the Stellar Divinity
   Church of Sylea (see also Imperial: Sylea)
   Doomsayers Collective
   The God with the Big Gun
   The "Machinists"
   Monastic Order of St.Marc
   The Repenters
   The School of Shared Experience
   The Temple of the Stellar Divinity
   The Way of Glory

Imperial: Sylean
   The Church of All Faiths
   Church of Sylea
   Religious Military Order of St. Ricardo I, King Of Sylea (see also
Imperial: Vilani)

Imperial: Vilani (see also Solomani/Vilani)
   Architects of Tomorrow
   Church of Sylea (see also Imperial: Sylea)
   Religious Military Order of St. Ricardo I, King of Sylea (see also
Imperial: Sylea)
   The Repositorians
   Subjects of the Celestial Court

Solomani/Vilani
   Beyond the Limits of Time and Space
   The Dark Ray People
   Hi'alya
   Philosophies of Merlna
   Prinsloo
   The Restored Canon Church of Sylea
   Tuwukh-Kawan
   Uncle John's Band

Solomani
   Binay Abrim
   The 'Called to Terra'
   Children of the Diaspora
   Church of Velis
   Gabreelism
   Monastic Order of the Soldiers of God
   [Nous]
   Searchers for the One Faith
   Society for Ethical Relations
   Synagogue of the Stars

Vargr
   Canine Time Worshippers

Zhodani
   Chaftlifl
   Psionic Brotherhood

Zhodani: Addaxur
   The Cult of the Deep Ones


tc

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Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 03:02:13 -0500
From: "Slack, Andy" <andy.slack@gb.unisys.com>
Subject: RE: Palm was RE: Deckplans

SD Mooney <dom@cybergoths.u-net.com> wrote:
>I have TealDoc, and use it for books etc. However, what I was after was
finding out if the Memo Pad on the Palm III allows bigger memos than that
on the Palm Pilot Pro.<

Memo size on the IIIx is limited to 4,000 characters, which is about a page.

>Or if there is a third party editor. The idea is to
have something I can work on bigger texts, not having to truncate files
across a number of memos.<

There are several. Have a look around http://www.palmgear.com/.

Are you sure you want to write things that big in longhand?

Andy

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Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 01:35:28 -0700
From: shudson@lightspeed.bc.ca (Steven Hudson)
Subject: Re: One question answered, another asked...

>From: Michel Vaillancourt <misha@empire.atlantic-online.ns.ca>
>Subject: Re: One question answered, another asked...
...
>>Dear degenerate scum of Joyeuse:
>>  Have you considered exporting your mind-altering chemicals to the 3I 
...
>        Actually, we've none left to export to the 3i, since your
>illustrious leader's wife just bought our entire annual production in one
>swat with your illustrious leader's "Imperial Express Card".  Rather
>impressive purchase limit, he must have...

  Don't worry, our currency is backed by plenty of heavy iron :)

...
>        Well then, shall we say one unescorted _Andrew Young_ against an
>equivalent tonnage of SDB's produced in your shipyards at your tech level?

  Sure; you've seen the stats on the Anteater SDB - two of those are pretty
much a guaranteed kill on the first turn. And if I were an isolationist I
could afford around 300 per billion proles, plus some change for the odd
thousand police cruisers. Maybe even some Popcorn-class fighters...

>        ...Yes, I am fairly sure I can trash 91dktons of TL C SDB's with the
>_Andrew Young_...  I probably shouldn't even need to lauch the _Bulldogs_
...
>        Diplomat-Class Battlion Transport and Support Ship
>        BT-Q733AF3-009909-50T99-0           MCr45077.01             91 ktons
>TL F          Crew 639
>        Passengers=0. Cargo=3000. Fuel=36400. EP=9100. Agility=2. Troops=4551
>        Batteries are 1 Spinal CPAWs, 12 Repulsor Bays, 12 Meson Bays, 12
>Missile Bays and 162 pulse laser groups
...
>        If you wish to make it interesting, how about we double the tonnage
>to 182,000dtons and I'll bring in three escorts?  You should be able to
>build some mighty impressive defenses with your "true technocratic fasc^h^h
>real men".

  Let me guess, that would be 90 Kt of TL F warships against TL C units? :|

>        Wishing you (down a gravity) well,

  Ha! You primitives! We here of the Combine no longer need your pesky planets -
we have our belt! Of course, we're interested in acquiring spare real estate :)

>        Military Democratic Combine of Joyeuse & Quichote        

  Something about the above phrase confuses us :>

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